Hot take

"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove) 05/09/2018 at 23:31 • Filed to: None

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Ford should have kept making the Town Car like Chevy did the Impala Limited for rentals. The Town Car is the perfect livery car.

Bonus take: the XTS looks stupid as a hearse.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:38

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They should’ve ended production in the 90’s when the platform was already 20 years old

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:39

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If you’re going to keep the Panther around, might as well build some police pursuit Crown Vics, too.

And the XTS just looks stupid. Period

SHARPSPEED > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:41

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Y’know hot takes are supposed to be something most won’t agree with you on, right?

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 05/09/2018 at 23:42

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Lots of police still miss their crown vics. Those were solid cruisers.

Disagree on the normal XTS. I like it a lot. Yes, it’s visually a FWD car, but that doesn’t bother me.

Chariotoflove > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/09/2018 at 23:42

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False.

Chariotoflove > SHARPSPEED 05/09/2018 at 23:44

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I already picked up one. There are always those misguided dissenters who don’t agree with my views.

404 - User No Longer Available > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:44

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Bonus take: the XTS looks stupid as a hearse.

You can’t be worse than a Tesla hearse.

Chariotoflove > 404 - User No Longer Available 05/09/2018 at 23:47

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Oh, my eyes! Why would you do that to me?

Why would anyone do that? Also, why is the greenhouse so damn big? That’s just creepy.

Wacko > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:48

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They should of made a proper replacement

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:51

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I only speak the truth

SHARPSPEED > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:52

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Fack ‘em.

AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:53

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In the Dominican Republic there’s like one guy who owns a Town Car (Import) and he’s f*cking loaded with dough. Everyone looks at the Town Car like it’s a space ship.

they look at our 2001 Navigator like we’re royalty

Chariotoflove > Wacko 05/09/2018 at 23:54

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Fair enough. They were essentially alone in that space. It was dumb to exit without something to replace it.

Chariotoflove > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/09/2018 at 23:54

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I’m ignoring you.

Wacko > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:55

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I don’t understand why the didn’t just use escalades as hearses.

Less modifications to do to it, you can just bag it to lower it to load it, give it landau bars.

Edit. I meant just use escalades and not heavily modify a car to do it. Cause they do exist

Chariotoflove > AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop 05/09/2018 at 23:59

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Well the Town Car kinda looks like a space ship in black.

ranwhenparked > Chariotoflove 05/09/2018 at 23:59

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Agreed, the Panther cars were ideally built for specific purposes. Keep the Town Car for black cab/livery services and a basis for stretch limos and hearses, and the Crown Vic for police cars and taxis in the cities without strict accessibility requirements.

Ford could have maybe outsourced production to AM General or someone if it got to the point where it was no longer economical to build them in a giant plant set up for huge volumes, but I’ll bet sales would still be at least somewhere in the 30,000-50,000 unit a year range today - plus whatever they could move in the Middle East.

The trouble was that new side impact requirement. Ford would have likely kept them around for a few years longer than they did if they didn’t need to spend millions reengineering really old body shells to comply. I wonder if there could have been some special exception worked out, if the cars were going to be built exclusively for government & commercial use, with no consumer sales?

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:00

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Well... technically you’re not.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:00

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“When I die I want to look like I’m in a gigantic fish tank”

Chariotoflove > Wacko 05/10/2018 at 00:01

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I’m guessing it’s the loading height. That, or maybe that it’s just traditional to have a hearse be a car.

FerdEcoPoop > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:03

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The panther platform was retired in 2011 due to roll over safety rule changes. It had a good run, lol. RIP 1979-2011

Chariotoflove > ranwhenparked 05/10/2018 at 00:03

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I didn’t realize they needed to be upgraded for new safety standards.

Chariotoflove > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/10/2018 at 00:04

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My fingers are in my ears as I type this. Nananananana, I can’t hear you.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:05

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Plus those cruisers would find their way in to the hands of Oppos when they retire from police duty. Everyone would be happy!

Yeah, I’m not a fan of the XTS - or large FWD cars in general really.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 05/10/2018 at 00:08

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Yeah, I know you hate FWD. I’ve owned both and I honestly prefer FWD slightly for normal driving because of its predictability in weather. It may not be as much fun, but spirited driving isn’t a part of 95% of my driving anyway.

ranwhenparked > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:10

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Yeah, there was an amendment to side impact standards that went into force during 2012, apparently the structural changes needed were cost prohibitive.

Considering that the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis shared a body that dated to 1992, with the Town Car’s dating to 1998, and that Ford had already long since decided that the Panthers were not to be a part of its future and would not receive any further updates of any significance.

Wacko > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:12

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That why you bag it, then slam it to the ground to load/unload.

Still way cheaper than all the body work, and other modifications to basically get in you what an escalade essentially is.

Chariotoflove > ranwhenparked 05/10/2018 at 00:13

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That makes more sense. Society still needs the Town Car though.

ranwhenparked > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:13

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Ford was really confident that they had replaced it.

Chariotoflove > Wacko 05/10/2018 at 00:15

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I don’t disagree with you. But then I don’t see why we don’t strap the casket to the roof rack and call it a day.

Maybe I’m not the best judge of these things.

Chariotoflove > ranwhenparked 05/10/2018 at 00:16

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Just wasn’t the same.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:18

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But then, how are you typing?

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > 404 - User No Longer Available 05/10/2018 at 00:19

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God, that’s shocking. It hertz to look at it. I don’t know watt they were thinking. Absolutely re-volting.

Chariotoflove > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 05/10/2018 at 00:20

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Guess which appendage I’m using. And remember that my legs don’t work.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:21

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Wacko > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:26

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just use a trailer behind a CTS and call it a day.

Chariotoflove > Wacko 05/10/2018 at 00:27

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Horse trailer or U-haul?

Wacko > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:31

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Silly you, that’s how the cremate bodies in Europe.

Park the car in direct sunlight, instant crematory

Chariotoflove > Wacko 05/10/2018 at 00:33

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Wow. That’s efficient. So then, by the time you get to the final resting place, I assume you can just open the back windows and let the breeze scatter the ashes.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:37

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Maybe it’s for Guild Naviagators...

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:37

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Don’t get the appeal. I’m Not sure about taxi configurations but I rode in the back of a friend’s 98 Lincoln Continental and found it pretty cramped. And no better in the front seat as my knees hit the dash with the seat all the way back. And I’m not that tall. My MINI has leg and head room for days (though not for 4)

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 00:47

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I think GM missed a big opportunity here to slap a Cadillac grille on the Caprice PPV and sell it as a DeVille to livery fleets. One issue would’ve been the end of production in Australia, but the Zeta-platform Camaro was built in Canada so they probably could have made them there if they really wanted.

jimz > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 04:56

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man, you guys really don’t seem to understand what car companies exist to do.

bhtooefr > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 05:46

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Nowadays, it’s just shove the casket in the back of a Grand Caravan, from what I’ve seen.

bhtooefr > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 05:49

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Huge greenhouse is just how European-style hearses are done, as I understand.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 08:16

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FWD is great for small cars and hot hatches, I can’t argue that. It’s in bigger cars that I don’t like it personally. Forward placement of the engine leads to odd proportions in big FWD cars.

But different strokes for different folks- I get why some people prefer it.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > bhtooefr 05/10/2018 at 09:46

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On this point, I have long thought the 4th gen Honda Odyssey was purpose built to be a hearse, especially when painted black.

The current ones might look almost more like hearses, aside from the ugly grille.

Chariotoflove > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 05/10/2018 at 12:38

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If I had time, I’d shop Musk’s head in there.

Chariotoflove > MiniGTI - now with XJ6 05/10/2018 at 12:39

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The Town Car is roomy enough for everyone. It’s cheap, reliable, smooth-riding, and has a huge trunk. Perfect livery car.

Chariotoflove > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 05/10/2018 at 12:40

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Makes sense to me.

Chariotoflove > bhtooefr 05/10/2018 at 12:41

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Stow-n-Go ftw

Chariotoflove > bhtooefr 05/10/2018 at 12:43

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bleh

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > Chariotoflove 05/10/2018 at 17:22

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Just saying i don’t get the appeal— I find Lincolns cramped. Last time I was at the Chicago auto show I couldn’t get comfortable in a single vehicle on the Lincoln display, either my knees hit the dash or my head hit the roof and I’m only 6’2”